Serpent In Red

Elysion Perspective — Part 1: Prequel

elfgrove:

I want to write an articulate post talking about things that bug me the more I think about the Shitennou and Silver Millennium situation. Not completely damning, but it’s some stuff that strikes me as kind of not right and fair in the villainization/death of the four generals.

You know how the US regularly gets hammered for how their intent to “help” other countries usually ends up (from cultures outside the US) very invasive/patronizing/self-righteous/insensitive to cultures/theologies different from our own? I wonder if that applied to the Moon Kingdom towards Elysion, at least a little bit.

Anyhoo, semi-humorous take on the situation below — Part 1: Prequel

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adventuresofcomicbookgirl:

sailorsomething:

idesofnovember:

  1. I love how Mamoru is like, “I’m still right here. Can still hear you. Everything you are saying. Riiight here. Hi.”
  2. Minako is really enjoying herself. Look at that little smile. It’s because messing with Mamoru is fun times. 
  3. I can’t decide if Makoto is trying not to crack up or seriously deciding how and when she’s going to deliver that uppercut to Mamoru’s jaw.  It would probably all depend on if they really thought he was cheating or not. 
  4. There is no number 4. There is no Miss Zarves. Sorry.

I love when the inners are sassy to Mamoru. That’s their princess, yo.

Minako and Makoto are my favorites in this.

[Makoto (sipping tea, unimpressed and annoyed): I had thought you would be different from the others, Mamoru.

Minako (whispering to Rei who’s glaring at Mamoru): In the end all men are just that-

Mamoru: Come on!]

omg I forgot this

I like how Makoto is just sipping her tea, out of fucks to give. “Oh so you’re a hopeless douche who hangs girls out to dry too huh, never seen that before, gee whillikers and here I thought you were special, haha are you sensing my sarcasm are you picking up on it, hahaha you’re not even worth interrupting my tea drinking, I’m going to finish this and then I’ll beat the shit out of you” 

And Minako’s like “Men suck amirite Rei”

and Rei’s like “I know that’s why we’re making out later rite”

“Not NOW I’m trolling Mamoru”

(via fymoonguardians)

ibelieveinitmiracleromance:

Today is March 15th- that means it’s Naoko Takeuchi’s birthday!
I’ll post this picture now to remind us of the wonderful love story that she created, this amazing, fantastical world full of princesses who can easily hold their own in a fight, and the people that support them, and of a prince charming who ends up being the one in distress instead— challenging the normative gender roles in a way that doesn’t strip the girls of their femininity, but rather celebrates the powers that only women can have.
<3 Thank you Naoko Takeuchi! I don’t know where I would be without you.

ibelieveinitmiracleromance:

Today is March 15th- that means it’s Naoko Takeuchi’s birthday!

I’ll post this picture now to remind us of the wonderful love story that she created, this amazing, fantastical world full of princesses who can easily hold their own in a fight, and the people that support them, and of a prince charming who ends up being the one in distress instead— challenging the normative gender roles in a way that doesn’t strip the girls of their femininity, but rather celebrates the powers that only women can have.

<3 Thank you Naoko Takeuchi! I don’t know where I would be without you.

(via fymoonguardians)

fymoonguardians:

shitennouland:


elfgrove:


I would buy this fanon. With the addition that he tries to write his own songs and lyrics, and they’re just as hila-ri-bad as his Tuxedo Mask speeches.
Also, I imagine he uses his ghostly-Shitennou as a test audience. Kunzite is too nice to tell him when he’s just outright bad, and instead encourages him kindly and tries to help him fix the worst stuff. Jadeite can’t bring himself to say anything. But Nephrite and Zoisite rag on his faults as only good friends can get away with.


Haha, this gave me a big smile. And then I thought of the PGSM Shitennou… and I think Mamoru has seen the pained expression on Zoisite’s face at every wrong sound, and he keeps practising to have his revenge on Zoisite for spying on him ;D


BWAHAHAHA…

fymoonguardians:

shitennouland:

elfgrove:

I would buy this fanon. With the addition that he tries to write his own songs and lyrics, and they’re just as hila-ri-bad as his Tuxedo Mask speeches.

Also, I imagine he uses his ghostly-Shitennou as a test audience. Kunzite is too nice to tell him when he’s just outright bad, and instead encourages him kindly and tries to help him fix the worst stuff. Jadeite can’t bring himself to say anything. But Nephrite and Zoisite rag on his faults as only good friends can get away with.

Haha, this gave me a big smile. And then I thought of the PGSM Shitennou… and I think Mamoru has seen the pained expression on Zoisite’s face at every wrong sound, and he keeps practising to have his revenge on Zoisite for spying on him ;D

BWAHAHAHA…

barriss:

And if not in this life, then in the next.

(via fymoonguardians)

michemistic:

shitennouland:

fymoonguardians:

luna-whiskers:

On Senshi/Shitennou (a.k.a. why I haven’t stopped being a Sailor Moon fan since 1993)It’s been like, years, since I’ve looked at or been involved with the general Sailor Moon fandom, so I guess I’m kind of out of touch with how most of the fandom feels about, well, anything.  Shitennou fans have sort of formed our own insular little subgroup that’s grown organically out of years of seeking out each other’s fic and ideas and feedback.  And why is that?Because one picture of four couples isn’t a lot to make a ship float, so Senshi/Shitennou is all about the fanfic.On their own, the Shitennou are dreadfully interesting.  Their story is one of betrayal, of failure, of war and redemption.  They have this long history that we only get to catch the faintest glimpses of.  And then you throw in a dash of extremely complicated romance that begins with death and betrayal and is this close to ending that way as well.  But it’s still nothing but hints.  We never truly found out how they went from Endymion’s guardians to servants of the Dark Kingdom.  The Shitennou never escaped the rocks they were sealed away in.  But, many will say, the four guardians of the prince getting together with the four guardians of the princess?  That is way too contrived.But that’s just it.  Because we get so little canon to go on.  Because we’ve had to struggle with every single detail from every single manga panel and combine canons in convoluted ways that would make it all fit together.  Because when you put it like that, it is so contrived.  Every writer I have met in this fandom has pushed themselves so hard to make it work.  Every writer has meticulously crafted the Shitennou as fully-rounded characters, and developed their relationships as something interesting and wonderful.And sometimes I feel like I read better fiction on my friends’ LiveJournals than I do in published books.  And there is something powerful about many people telling the same story while putting so much of themselves into it that each of them has created something completely unique.But there are very few times in my life that I have felt so accomplished as when I began to feel like I could tell my own version of that story.
So I guess in a way the characters themselves are not as important as the fandom that has emerged around them.  In some ways, I don’t know if Naoko Takeuchi would entirely recognize her characters anymore, but I would like to think that she’d be extremely pleased with where they have gone.

The Shitennou offshoot of the Sailor Moon fandom has put so much thought and depth into the interpretations of these four boys both with and without romance involved, how they relate to each other, to their prince, and to the Moon Kingdom. It becomes a complex tale of honor, betrayal, sacrifice, regret, redemption, responsibility, and forgiveness. The deeper you dig into the fanon surrounding them the harder it is not to fall a little in love with their story. It’s King Arthur and his knights gone horribly, tragically wrong, and doomed to repeat a thousand years later so you come to the fandom to learn about the knights and their reasons and feelings and answer the question of if they too can break the cycle of fate to finally live again?
It’s an addicting bit of story to play in, and while most of it is not the least bit canon the writers and artists still telling that story 20 years after the initial introduction knows how to spin a beautiful tale.

This.
Too tired today to support this coherently, but then, look at the name of my tumblr. 
And: Love to ship them with senshi, but more than that I love that they share a history, and that, in a way, the Shitennou are the other side of the same medal.
And: It’s not about how much sense the idea makes, but how it’s told. I’ve read amazing stuff on the Shitennou theme.
Love you, Shitennou fanfiction writers!

So true, call me a bad/doing it wrong, but I’d rather read fanfic. All the effort of creating what little is there. The different ways it can go, like when they’re still enemies. I ship the hell out of heroine/villain counterparts that there’s so little in fiction AND in this fandom there’s FOUR foe yay (foe yay is a term from the marvelous website TVTrops-go there!) ships. Five if you include brainwashed, dark Tuxedo Kamen. Wish there was more dark, smutty good-girls/bad-boys battling each other UST fic. Talk about, “sleeping with the enemy.” 

michemistic:

shitennouland:

fymoonguardians:

luna-whiskers:

On Senshi/Shitennou (a.k.a. why I haven’t stopped being a Sailor Moon fan since 1993)

It’s been like, years, since I’ve looked at or been involved with the general Sailor Moon fandom, so I guess I’m kind of out of touch with how most of the fandom feels about, well, anything.  Shitennou fans have sort of formed our own insular little subgroup that’s grown organically out of years of seeking out each other’s fic and ideas and feedback.  And why is that?

Because one picture of four couples isn’t a lot to make a ship float, so Senshi/Shitennou is all about the fanfic.

On their own, the Shitennou are dreadfully interesting.  Their story is one of betrayal, of failure, of war and redemption.  They have this long history that we only get to catch the faintest glimpses of.  And then you throw in a dash of extremely complicated romance that begins with death and betrayal and is this close to ending that way as well.  But it’s still nothing but hints.  We never truly found out how they went from Endymion’s guardians to servants of the Dark Kingdom.  The Shitennou never escaped the rocks they were sealed away in. 

But, many will say, the four guardians of the prince getting together with the four guardians of the princess?  That is way too contrived.

But that’s just it.  Because we get so little canon to go on.  Because we’ve had to struggle with every single detail from every single manga panel and combine canons in convoluted ways that would make it all fit together.  Because when you put it like that, it is so contrived.  Every writer I have met in this fandom has pushed themselves so hard to make it work.  Every writer has meticulously crafted the Shitennou as fully-rounded characters, and developed their relationships as something interesting and wonderful.

And sometimes I feel like I read better fiction on my friends’ LiveJournals than I do in published books.  And there is something powerful about many people telling the same story while putting so much of themselves into it that each of them has created something completely unique.

But there are very few times in my life that I have felt so accomplished as when I began to feel like I could tell my own version of that story.

So I guess in a way the characters themselves are not as important as the fandom that has emerged around them.  In some ways, I don’t know if Naoko Takeuchi would entirely recognize her characters anymore, but I would like to think that she’d be extremely pleased with where they have gone.

The Shitennou offshoot of the Sailor Moon fandom has put so much thought and depth into the interpretations of these four boys both with and without romance involved, how they relate to each other, to their prince, and to the Moon Kingdom. It becomes a complex tale of honor, betrayal, sacrifice, regret, redemption, responsibility, and forgiveness. The deeper you dig into the fanon surrounding them the harder it is not to fall a little in love with their story. It’s King Arthur and his knights gone horribly, tragically wrong, and doomed to repeat a thousand years later so you come to the fandom to learn about the knights and their reasons and feelings and answer the question of if they too can break the cycle of fate to finally live again?

It’s an addicting bit of story to play in, and while most of it is not the least bit canon the writers and artists still telling that story 20 years after the initial introduction knows how to spin a beautiful tale.

This.

Too tired today to support this coherently, but then, look at the name of my tumblr. 

And: Love to ship them with senshi, but more than that I love that they share a history, and that, in a way, the Shitennou are the other side of the same medal.

And: It’s not about how much sense the idea makes, but how it’s told. I’ve read amazing stuff on the Shitennou theme.

Love you, Shitennou fanfiction writers!

So true, call me a bad/doing it wrong, but I’d rather read fanfic. All the effort of creating what little is there. The different ways it can go, like when they’re still enemies. I ship the hell out of heroine/villain counterparts that there’s so little in fiction AND in this fandom there’s FOUR foe yay (foe yay is a term from the marvelous website TVTrops-go there!) ships. Five if you include brainwashed, dark Tuxedo Kamen. Wish there was more dark, smutty good-girls/bad-boys battling each other UST fic. Talk about, “sleeping with the enemy.”
 

feedmyaddictionnow:

kingofwesteros:

Publicity done right in an anti-rape campaign: double-page spread, pages glued to one another. After the reader forcefully separates them, the image above is revealed with the caption “if you have to use force, it’s rape”.

THIS IS BRILLIANT

feedmyaddictionnow:

kingofwesteros:

Publicity done right in an anti-rape campaign: double-page spread, pages glued to one another. After the reader forcefully separates them, the image above is revealed with the caption “if you have to use force, it’s rape”.

THIS IS BRILLIANT

(via ozzzymandius)